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rmz
what the fuck lmao
BigC
dolce.jpg
*NYAA
QUOTE (#Based death song template @ Apr 16 2012, 12:33 AM) *
i thought himiko[b] was FCed a long time ago on video


it was and has been posted itt
Fungi
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17621467
blendes DP is dead
One Niceass Individual
guy is a lv99 jonnyd

must be so proud of himself

actually being superproud of yourself is a trait lv1 jonnyds would have but i digress
m335h73r
QUOTE (Fungi @ Apr 23 2012, 05:18 PM) *



show's over folks we can all go home now.
Fake-ass John Travolta
i had no idea anyone even cleared it let alone HC'd.

can't we just go back to the days where HCing quasar DPA was impossible (according to arch0wl)
Kirby Kirby Kirby
CS DJT Kaiden cleared with HID+SUD enabled: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17626997

um okay
*NYAA
TJB
QUOTE (Kirby Kirby Kirby @ Apr 24 2012, 05:12 PM) *
CS DJT Kaiden cleared with HID+SUD enabled: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17626997

um okay



dayummmm

There was a video floating around from the DD AC era with someone from Kizoku (or maybe he was named DJ KIZOKU I don't know) who managed to reach the last stage of kaiden hid+sud which I think was mei? I'm sure he failed during the speedup, considering this was like what 2006? pretty damn crazy

I can't find the video on youtube anymore, the guy who uploaded it had some other cool ones, people with weird playstyles like XAN.7 and -SB-

tbh hid+sud looks very intimidating but once you adjust to it, it can be quite fun, if not fun, very surprising at just how well you can do
Fungi
DJ KIZOKU was actually a name used by TOTORO, possibly SILV, and many other notable players from back in the day. I still have a few videos saved.
linus
TOTORO is TOTORO. Not SILV.
Fungi
QUOTE (linus @ Apr 24 2012, 07:41 PM) *
TOTORO is TOTORO. Not SILV.

Yeah, I meant that multiple people used the "DJ KIZOKU" monicker.
One Niceass Individual
QUOTE (DARK PRISM @ Apr 23 2012, 11:52 PM) *
i had no idea anyone even cleared it let alone HC'd.


when exit streamed cs doubles, he was unable to easy clear mendes DPB and his memory card showed the song as failed/assist cleared or something. but he was trying to actually hit the 16th notes as 16th notes, not 8th chords. i really doubt anyone has passed it without anmitsu, kind of like silent EX HA HA HA >_>
Fungi
wtf dolce
OML perfect http://twitpic.com/9e047g
Y&Co is dead or alive perfect http://twitpic.com/9dgx7u
Fungi
meet DJ HINS, 4th KSC overjoy http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17661964
1st Samurai
"Dan BMS certified insane"

huhu


I've seen vids of this guy before, next level skills innit. Aside from those Korean kb players I can't really think of anyone I've seen that's better, not that I'm particularly knowledgeable on the subject.

Btw - how do you remove the lane bg and shit on lr2, so that it's black and whatnot like this guy has? Is there a performance reason for doing that?

linus
Che and ABCD are still better, but they use keyboard so I don't think they are very comparable.

I watched that video, I almost cried at the end. (no joke)
1st Samurai
Aye you can feel the elation at the end of FD; a mini "whoop!" came out from me, for sure.

Now on youtube too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXoCRE3reBE


What's all the random VO about then?
TJB
Not sure, but I've heard that sort of voice before with a bunch of yukkuri related stuff, I'm just as confused actually.

HINS has been good for so long though, I remember there was a video of him playing Ubertreffen [a] on DJT AC a while back and he got some kind of riciulous PC if memory serves (if not it was awfully close), I think he's been a BMS kaiden for a while? How different it is from overjoy I'm not sure, bms beyond 16 all looks the same to me.

As far as keyboard players go, MN is probably the most disgusting, I think he holds the top score for just about everything :V Funnily enough HINS has them beat on a few songs as well, I think Evangelize was one of them? (the 20/22 chart or whatever it was rated)
ErAseRmoTor maXimUM
hins streams bms and the voices are comments and hins responding. listening to comments and talking all while clearing overjoy kaiden is impressive itself tbh lol

overjoy kaiden is about a billion times more difficult than bms kaiden (bms kaiden = 10% clear rate, overjoy kaiden = 2% clear rate), the gap in difficulty is huge. it's really one of the most insane accomplishments possible imo also this is the first clear of it on a koc that's been caught on video afaik

overjoy clears I know of are che, abcd, butanic, and zxcnkl for kb, and just hins, kamiyu, and rag for bm con clears
SEXYSEXYCHEVY
omedetooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
TJB
QUOTE (ErAseRmoTor maXimUM @ May 1 2012, 04:21 PM) *
hins streams bms and the voices are comments and hins responding. listening to comments and talking all while clearing overjoy kaiden is impressive itself tbh lol

overjoy kaiden is about a billion times more difficult than bms kaiden (bms kaiden = 10% clear rate, overjoy kaiden = 2% clear rate), the gap in difficulty is huge. it's really one of the most insane accomplishments possible imo also this is the first clear of it on a koc that's been caught on video afaik

overjoy clears I know of are che, abcd, butanic, and zxcnkl for kb, and just hins, kamiyu, and rag for bm con clears


god daaamn

thanks for clearing that up
1st Samurai
QUOTE (TJB @ May 1 2012, 03:08 AM) *
god daaamn

thanks for clearing that up


I second this.
LongGone
QUOTE (linus @ Apr 28 2012, 01:38 AM) *
I watched that video, I almost cried at the end. (no joke)

That feeling whenever you pass a course... (not to mention Overjoy)

The gap between BMS Kaiden and Overjoy is huuge; There are about 450 10Dan players, 100 Kaiden players but only that many Overjoy passers. Of course, mostly due Freedom Dive and I suspect Dengeki Tube (that spamwall is just bs)

Freedom Dive alone has around 30 passes (2~3 which are hardclears) out of almost 2000 players, though some may be alt accounts. Dan gauge is lax enough to allow for quite a number of misses but the fact you have to play all the songs on non-random makes it quite a feat to pull off

The first few Overjoy passes were all from Keyboard players (ABCD, Che, Butanic); but then KOC players caught up in skill level and are almost comparable atm. HINS is way overdue for an Overjoy pass IMO; even back then he has insane accuracy and has incredibly high rankings for hard songs

(mn is one of -the- best accuracy players on most BMS songs; and is especially good with moderate bpm jacky notecharts. On the harder overjoy charts however; they are a number of better players...)
linus
Speaking of KOC bms player, I really like Koutya. His accuracy is only a bit worse than hins but his full combo and overjoy chart's clears are fuking crazy. Too bad FDFD is his only weak point.
LongGone
Koutya(Kaiden) and zxcnkl(^^) are my fullcombo idols; they just rape the FC rankings for BMS charts (and they compete surprisingly well too; one with a KOC the other with a KB. The only huge disadvantage of the KB player here is that scratchwall charts are a little hard to do)

Rag(^^) is working his way up and would catch up soon; he has the most overjoy clears atm I think and has some retarded FCs
linus
Rag is stupidly good at crazy scratches and jacks. This one is my favourite overjoy video of all time: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16510107
Auric
http://youtu.be/CR5pvode7eI

This video is not only impressive, but very entertaining as well.
Are there any other kb+bm players?
Fungi
koutya was the only? BMS ranker who made it to KAC finals too
Fake-ass John Travolta
something I could never understand is if there are all these ridiculous BMS players then how come they aren't dominating IIDX? It seems like they could easily. Is BMS play more or less like ITG over there where they just don't like IIDX?
LongGone
I guess the ITG/DDR analogy kinda works
Most of the BMS charts have a looser timing gauge than IIDX; so its a little easier to time charts (notably higher bpm/denser charts have their timing loosen to make them playable)

Kisai ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMPnJXMBqkg ) is a familiar name being good in both BMS and IIDX. In BMS he was one of the top FullCombo players; This carried over to to IIDX where he now is only two songs away from a *12 folder FullCombo (only Himiko and Mei [A] left). Despite his (questionably bad) accuracy in most of his vids, he -can- be very accurate as seen from his BMS score records (even gaining top three in EX score on some BMS songs). Too bad he deleted his account...

TAKA.S plays BMS too, and has ridiculous scores (out of the blue? He suddenly has top scores on many hard songs in the BMS song rankings)

Auzen is probably the best allrounder KB/KOC player; he plays almost equally well on both of them and is currently the 4th highest FCer for ranked BMS (losing only to Koutya,zxcnkl and Rag). He also Easy Cleared ★★5 Freedom Dive

Here's another highlevel BMS player playing IIDX, *8284* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82E4RACDX6c (Hazard FC AA, Mendes, Golden Cross, Bad Maniacs). This is the kind of score he gets on BMS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqSfgxh8-Es

Koutya is ridiculous; hes The combo machine and has great accuracy too. It could be the tighter accuracy on AC IIDX thats hindering him..
HINS also plays AC IIDX afaik, I think I saw his name once in the topscores of a song in a Quell video

(personally, I can play both KB and KOC but I'm mediocre at best with a KOC.. I'd love to try that switching hand things someday with an easier song)
ErAseRmoTor maXimUM
hins is insane at ac yeah. scores of his have popped up on the lincle wrdb before

also rag http://twitpic.com/9fxyoa PP fc in lincle kaiden lol
Fungi
Kisai purposely times early for FCs. I've actually never seen any videos of him scoring, but with that kind of ability I doubt he's anything short of top 50

TAKAS is quickly climbing to the top ranks, joining TANMEN and stuff up top as possible DOLCE contenders (of course the beast is doing crazy shit like mei SRAN and getting better even still)

Rag looks like one of those guys that is able to pick stuff up quickly and get good efficiently - his twitter profile says he does typing/rubik'scube/tetris/pen spinning
Fake-ass John Travolta
How does DOLCE compare on BMS? Assuming he even plays...

also i've always thought it'd be interesting to see a 10000 combo on IIDX. People have the ability to FC 2000+ notecount songs now, but how consistent can they be?
Jadin
need to combo most of 7th style master's mode on [a]
grayfox9996
QUOTE (Jadin @ May 2 2012, 11:32 AM) *
need to combo most of 7th style master's mode on [a]

isn't that a relative cakewalk now
Snapps
is the only way to get better seriously is to do the thumb on 1 index on 3 method overjoy courses are ridiculous i cant even process some of the things going on
One Niceass Individual
QUOTE (grayfox9996 @ May 2 2012, 11:44 AM) *
isn't that a relative cakewalk now

random isn't allowed

but lol yeah. i imagine it could be irritating having to reload saves over and over if you break combo on something stupid (most of 7th master's mode is sub-10* shit) so it'd be like trying to get no alerts in MGS3 or rainbow Vs in viewtiful joe ewwwww

e: love generation and colors are on 7th HAVE FUN WITH THAT
grayfox9996
QUOTE (#Based death song template @ May 2 2012, 12:17 PM) *
random isn't allowed

oh I forgot about that fuck master's mode
TJB
QUOTE (Auric @ May 2 2012, 08:49 AM) *
http://youtu.be/CR5pvode7eI

This video is not only impressive, but very entertaining as well.
Are there any other kb+bm players?


That was brilliant. One more springs to mind, he isn't as good as the players mentioned in this thread but I enjoy his videos regardless, his yt account name was loxe with some numbers on it or something, he wasn't overjoy good but he had some interesting keyboard videos nonetheless, had a pretty cool clear of one of the harder charts for SunnyShinyRing which was neat, not sure if his videos are even on yt anymore.

Man I'll never wrap my head around scratching during dense stuff properly, my left hand is so shittttt, I see videos of people like rie, taka.s, qed, tanmen and it's like what. Switching thumbs is too hard plus I always get that "but what if there's something on 5 as well" thought so I just slide it around between 1 and 3 and hope for the best, one of the players here, butler does it and it works fine for him, enough to have cleared lincle kaiden :V
LongGone
QUOTE (DARK PRISM @ May 3 2012, 02:26 AM) *
How does DOLCE compare on BMS? Assuming he even plays...

also i've always thought it'd be interesting to see a 10000 combo on IIDX. People have the ability to FC 2000+ notecount songs now, but how consistent can they be?


Never seen Dolce play BMS, I'm curious too. I'd say he would do pretty well especially on easier charts considering his speed and insane accuracy
Off the top of my head, G59 5 times in a row would be the most viable option for 10k combo when you're at that level (pulling it off however...)

QUOTE (Snapps @ May 3 2012, 03:13 AM) *
is the only way to get better seriously is to do the thumb on 1 index on 3 method overjoy courses are ridiculous i cant even process some of the things going on


"Wristscratching" is still kinda frowned upon the IIDX community IMO; it (arguably) takes away the fun of shifting your fingers around dynamically on the controller. Dynamic players like Dolce, TAKAS etc. tend to have better accuracy while wristscr players are much better off with comboing.
On BMS however unless you're TAKAS you'd find after a certain difficulty level of charts wristscratching seems like the only plausible way to play. It'd be almost ridiculous to do dense chordstream walls while some scratches come your way

This video is ridiculous, done with a KOC; wristscratching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVTfTC2Etvk

As a side note, EXIT plays BMS and is Kaiden on both BMS SP/DP (which is ridiculous). I think he's the best DP player even in BMS (rank 1~3 on pretty much every ranked DP song rofl)
BMS DP Kaiden course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLW-GR-N4I
One Niceass Individual
i've actually wristscratched on red by fmj at the arcade because i cant figure out a better way to hit the fucking 24th notes on a bad random
linus
QUOTE (#Based death song template @ May 3 2012, 12:42 PM) *
i've actually wristscratched on red by fmj at the arcade because i cant figure out a better way to hit the fucking 24th notes on a bad random

I only play it on non-random and use one-hand on the scratchy parts...
One Niceass Individual
well that's NO FUN NOW is it

can you imagine playing red impact on normal/mirror everytime? i sure can't. and i wouldn't have it any other way
*NYAA
how can you even wristscratch on ac
Fungi
There are people that do it on AC

Anyways, the 1048 method of thumb on 1 index on 3 isn't so you can wristscratch, it's so you can move your left hand around by pivoting around thumb on 1
*NYAA
haha

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16998442
1st Samurai
I used to wristscratch in the thumb1-index3 position all the time when I first started playing, think Saryou was one of the first guys I saw so pretty much just copied him. It's all gone to fuck over the last couple of years though, was purposely trying NOT to ws and instead get used to shifting around. Have got pretty handy now in terms of adaptability, but I tend to slip back to ws when faced with harder, note heavy stuff.

Haven't played ac, but ws there can't be much more different to on an asc, right?

QUOTE (LongGone @ May 2 2012, 05:10 AM) *
*8284* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82E4RACDX6c (Hazard FC AA, Mendes, Golden Cross, Bad Maniacs).


This guy is my new hero.
LongGone
DJ Kisai
Himiko [A]
http://p.twimg.com/Ar-Tf4BCAAAgiCq.jpg

Only Mei [A] left I believe...
Then we will witness a *12 Flashing lamp folder

EDIT: Vid is up
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17723287
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwRNhf02Oyg
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