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djplaeskool
Given the slew of great DS titles released recently, and the fact I haven't bought anything new for my PSP in about 5...maybe 6 months, I'm considering going DS...
Hoshigami Remix would be one of the reasons (since the original Hoshigami, and Stella Deus for that matter, were both solid games that went largely under the radar)

Also, I know my PSP isn't under warranty, and it's begun stretching load times, as if the UMD reading assembly on the inside is dying, in a strikingly similar fashion to my PS2, which, as you can guess, is a little less than encouraging.
Eggman of the Strata
Stella Deus was great. I actually very much enjoyed the game, which is half the reason I wanted to go back to Hoshigami.

The PSP has some great stuff coming up too. Crush is a fantastic puzzle/platformer that's out now and there are multiple good-looking RPG's coming up with Brave Story and Jeanne D'Arc.

Of course, the DS has the aforementioned Luminous Arc, Heroes of Mana, FF12 Revenant Wings, Front Mission 1st (which is actually coming out in the US...unlike Front Mission 5 damn it), and there's probably a bunch I'm missing.
Hitman
Well, I've done it. I've gotten 100% completion on Drakengard and gotten all the weapons up to level 4. Took 57 hours, 97,000 kills, and about 120,000 attacks, according to in-game stats. Final analysis: Square Enix is insane. It's like the head of Square Enix was listening to one of his friends describe an acid trip in which he was eaten by giant babies and said "Hey, we should make a game about that!" to which his friend responded "Uh... Why? What possible premise could you come up with for being eaten by giant babies?" and the head of Square Enix said "I dunno, what are the rest of our games about? Dragons or something, right? We'll work something out."

I will say that ending E is somewhat better than ending A, because at least you actually get to kill the final boss. Yeah, and then you get killed, but that was going to happen anyway.


Speaking of which, what kind of a final boss was that? Considering I just showed I liked the game enough to go through all the maps enough times to find all the weapons, I expected a logical final conclusion to the game, like Caim versus a 3000-man army, or the dragon versus one big boss as per usual. Instead, I get a bastardized Simon* clone with only two buttons that ramps up to Max 300 difficulty in the final thirty seconds. (I'm not putting spoilers around that. People need to be warned about these things.)

What's next? I'm not really sure. I should probably take a break. I've been playing a little of Grandia again, as well as the original easy version of 7th Saga. It's playable this time, people.

*Only instead of "Simon" it's called "Giant Molting Naked Woman".
Schlagwerk
QUOTE(Hitman @ Jul 2 2007, 11:09 PM) *
What's next? I'm not really sure. I should probably take a break. I've been playing a little of Grandia again, as well as the original easy version of 7th Saga. It's playable this time, people.


Cute. I'm sure others are thinking the same thing so that this is Beating_a_Dead_Horse.gif, but it's interesting to see a console RPG that was made MORE difficult for the US release.
I'm trying to think of other games that were made harder.. I know a couple of Contras and Rocket Knight Adventures were..
HYPER BOUNDARY GATE
QUOTE(Schlagwerk @ Jul 2 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Cute. I'm sure others are thinking the same thing so that this is Beating_a_Dead_Horse.gif, but it's interesting to see a console RPG that was made MORE difficult for the US release.
I'm trying to think of other games that were made harder.. I know a couple of Contras and Rocket Knight Adventures were..


Ugh, I remember that game. I didn't even know about the levelup adjustment between the 2 versions until well after I beat it.

As for games that were made harder...Devil May Cry 3 comes to mind. I think Dirge of Cerberus was also made more difficult, amongst other readjustments.
CStarFlare
Elemental Gearbolt had a slight difficulty adjustment to better suit the score tournament they held.
Moogy
QUOTE(MathmanZero @ Jul 2 2007, 10:23 PM) *
As for games that were made harder...Devil May Cry 3 comes to mind.

Wrong. Dante Must Die mode is the same on both Japanese and American versions; they just shifted the other difficulties down one in the Japanese version.

Not that you should be playing anything except DMD, of course!
Oogami
My Japanese PS2 version of Soul Calibur II seems a bit easier than my American XBOX version of the same game (well, that one's technically my wife's), and I seem to remember reading something that confirmed my suspicion.
Oogami
QUOTE(Hitman @ Jun 21 2007, 11:55 PM) *
Grandia: Find all on-map items, finish all sidequests, max out spell lists if possible

A bit late in this conversation, but the final one's gonna be tough as the requirements for Fina's 時の門 spell is absolutely ridiculous (LV 99 wind and water, if I remember correctly). I never bothered to do it, and from what I hear, I'm not missing much, either.
chotto kiitena
I did it. I'm awesome.

I think there is a place around the end of the game where you can just cast wind and water spells on lots of targets over and over and over and over.
Deets
QUOTE(Hitman @ Jul 2 2007, 09:09 PM) *
Final analysis: Square Enix is insane.

Not disagreeing with your sentiment, but I will clarify that Drakengard was developed by Cavia, and only published by S-E (you will note that its sequel was published in the US by ubisoft - Square Enix didn't want to touch that shit, presumably).
HYPER BOUNDARY GATE
QUOTE(Moogy @ Jul 3 2007, 02:27 AM) *
Wrong. Dante Must Die mode is the same on both Japanese and American versions; they just shifted the other difficulties down one in the Japanese version.

Not that you should be playing anything except DMD, of course!


They also nerfed the save system too. Besides, the main drive here is just games that are more difficult. If by definition your Normal mode is the same as the JPN Hard mode, then your game is probably more difficult. Beating_a_Dead_Horse.gif
PkerUNO
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Mazrim
QUOTE(PkerUNO @ Jul 3 2007, 07:48 AM) *
Check out my Aquarian Age Alternative team name and logo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pkeruno/704100789/

Nice, I like this game already, and I don't even know what it is!
Kirby Kirby Kirby
QUOTE(MazriM TaiM @ Jul 3 2007, 11:37 AM) *
Nice, I like this game already, and I don't even know what it is!

Pker explains it all!
Moogy


a day old but whatever
ParaParaKing
Judging from the graphics, I have no idea, why they don't put that on the PS2. dry.gif
BG_Hojo72
dunno what you're talking about totally harnessing the power of next gen.

...maybe the sprites have mind-altering animations though. i dunno.
Eggman of the Strata
Kotaku mentions a Wii version as well.

Honestly, I could do without another Disgaea.
djplaeskool
Now, if it were another Phantom Brave it'd have my full support.
Axem Rangers
I finally got Odama recently.

Best game I've played in a long, long while. Totally solid.
Eggman of the Strata
See, I can totally agree with you on that one. The game was totally overlooked. Not only that, but the reviews were all fairly poor just because the game's harder than most games out there. It's the kind of innovative mixing of genres that I look for.
grayfox9996
Yeah...the game forces you to do a lot at once, which makes it INCREDIBLY difficult when you're first starting out. Unfortunately, I only had the chance to play it for about an hour or two (and I missed the sale where it dropped to $20 sad.gif), so I never got past that point...but I'm sure it got better, the further you got in (and the better you get at the game).
ParaParaKing
I actually bought Odama and Chibi-Robo last week. I didn't have a chance to play Odama though, because I had to play through Paper Mario first.
Moogy
I'll be buying a PS3 for Disgaea 3 and also buying both the Japanese and American versions of the game, since the PS3 is region-free. 8)
Elixir
I really need to play Chibi Robo as well. I imported it, played it for two hours, and never touched it again.
Mazrim
QUOTE(Moogy @ Jul 18 2007, 04:18 PM) *
I'll be buying a PS3 for Disgaea 3 and also buying both the Japanese and American versions of the game, since the PS3 is region-free. 8)

Is there going to be enough differences (besides Japanese/English text) to justify buying both? Or is it just a collectors thing?

On another note...fuck, Odin Sphere is hard! >.<
Moogy
It's just me being a NIS fanboy.
ParaParaKing
QUOTE(Moogy @ Jul 19 2007, 11:38 PM) *
It's just me being a NIS fanboy.

Then you might consider importing the PAL Version as well, to have it in even more languages. rolleyes.gif
WILD RIDE
The PAL version of Disgaea 2 got to keep the good case art...
Moogy
QUOTE(ParaParaKing @ Jul 20 2007, 01:12 PM) *
Then you might consider importing the PAL Version as well, to have it in even more languages. rolleyes.gif

Yeah, I'm considering it.
Elixir
QUOTE(Monster-in-a-box! @ Jul 21 2007, 04:28 PM) *
The PAL version of Disgaea 2 got to keep the good case art...


Holy shit, it did. Came with the soundtrack too. I wonder if Koei did the same with Disgaea 2 as they did with the original? The PAL version of the original Disgaea was on a blue based CD-R, but the American version was on a dvd. Essentially the same thing ICO did, but backwards.

Hmm, according to my local site it's only $40 for the PAL Disgaea 2 and still includes soundtrack. Maybe I should get it, just for the hell of it?

I recently discovered that Digital Devil Saga's PAL release came with a soundtrack as well.
Schlagwerk
I picked up Ys Origin at Otakon.
Mazrim
I'm now the proud owner of Beatmania DaDaDa!!, for the PS2. It's hilarious, and incredibly hard. It's way more fun than All The Right Type, though!
HYPER BOUNDARY GATE
Finally bought Ouendan 2 at Otakon...I hedged at the price for a while until I remembered how much it costs to get decent shipping from an import site. It's the first game I've bought in like 3 months.

Beyond that it was almost like an overload. I wanted to buy a lot of Super Famicom games for collector's value but there was just too much to pick from. Wound up buying a couple soundtracks instead. (Mother Vocal and Ys Perfect Collection)
Spiritsnare
So I played the demo of Every Extend Extra and it looks really freaking cool.
Deets
You could always just play the original (preferable).
Spiritsnare
Ooh. Never knew that there was an original.
Deets
Eggman is VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH YOU
One Niceass Individual
beat xenogears today
mind is blown
Toph
xnoegars*

Is that game as good as everyone keeps telling me it is? I'm at the part where I go in and save the princess from the desert castle but I haven't played in forever.
Schlagwerk
QUOTE(Oni+ @ Jul 29 2007, 04:48 AM) *
beat xenogears today
mind is blown


Yay for glowing genitals!
annoying bitch
QUOTE (Toph @ Jul 29 2007, 04:28 AM) *
xnoegars*

Is that game as good as everyone keeps telling me it is? I'm at the part where I go in and save the princess from the desert castle but I haven't played in forever.

Probably the best story in a game, you foreigner.
One Niceass Individual
QUOTE(Toph @ Jul 29 2007, 02:28 AM) *
xnoegars*

Is that game as good as everyone keeps telling me it is? I'm at the part where I go in and save the princess from the desert castle but I haven't played in forever.

That part of the game sucks and most of the beginning does. It gets much better later. Just remember the following:
Always upgrade your gears, don't kill that fucking robot in the cave you'll be going to soon after that
Level up deathblows as quickly as possible
Use Ether Ar+3 for Opiomorph and never attack her more than once per round
get the trader card by killing the boss of the second anima ruin, don't let him self destruct

This information is pretty invaluable I SUPPOSE so have fun playing the rest IF YOU SO DESIDE (to wait your time)
Toph
Oh yeah, I kind of fucked myself over because Fei died in the coliseum battles, meaning I can't get the Wedding Dress from Dan, I guess? I understand that because of this, I miss out on some badass Gear parts later. How screwed am I D:
Moogy
not very
BG_Hojo72
QUOTE(Toph @ Jul 29 2007, 11:27 AM) *
Oh yeah, I kind of fucked myself over because Fei died in the coliseum battles, meaning I can't get the Wedding Dress from Dan, I guess? I understand that because of this, I miss out on some badass Gear parts later. How screwed am I D:

if you miss out on something later in the game besides being able to say "I got the Wedding Dress from deformed head boy" i can honestly say that that's news to me. and i've played through the game like...7 times.

though Fei dying during the Coliseum battles says that you don't have very good equipment or you're a bit underleveled, or both, though equipment is more likely. I never power-level at that stage of them game, and i can't remember any attack besides Gonzales Deathblow counter doing any substantial damage, but as long as you don't use Deathblows, you should be taking next to no damage.

Also, you should have an assload of Omegasol from buying an assload of them because they're mind-blowingly good. Non battle only, but i suppose an item that recovers all HP and EP that's cheap and purchasable needs to have some downside.

And make sure you use Wild Smile on Alpha Weltall, or else you'll never beat him.
Moogy
yes beating alpha weltall is productive and should be done in the course of one's first play through the game
BG_Hojo72
QUOTE(Moogy @ Jul 29 2007, 06:56 PM) *
yes beating alpha weltall is productive and should be done in the course of one's first play through the game

FACT: if you don't beat Alpha Weltall the first time you face him on your first playthrough of the game without a strategy guide of any kind, you are a bad gamer.

the same goes for getting all of your characters up to a 255 base in all stats through devouring in FF8.
One Niceass Individual
You had better beat Rico the first time you fight him too! And before that, make sure to kick that Red Gear's ass in the desert when you fight him as Bart!
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