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> I think it's about time for these people to be called out...
gameboyguy13
post Jan 27 2015, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (Koushiro @ Dec 6 2014, 12:57 PM) *
Since it doesn't seem to me that people (for one reason or another) are not aware...

Hard/Easy modifiers weren't available prior to 6th Style, so how exactly are people claiming to be using said mods for songs that were never revived beyond 5th Style? I even made a list to break it down for songs on CS releases that are impossible to use Hard/Easy on:

3rd Style:

Dancin' Into The Night / good-cool US / 7th / Empress
Digital MinD (A/T Libra mix) / TaQ US / DistorteD
Do you love me? / reo-nagumo no CS IIDX charts
e-motion / e.o.s - beatmania (3rd Style charts only) e-motion doesn't have 3rd-specific charts
g.m.d. / DJ mazinger featuring Muhammad US
GAMBOL / SLAKE RED / Troopers / Empress
Hitch Hiker / good-cool US / 10th
I Was The One / good-cool 6th / 7th / US / DistorteD / Empress
jam jam reggae / Jam Master'73 no CS IIDX charts
Keep on Movin' / NMR - no CS IIDX charts
LOVE SO GROOVY / LOVEMINTS - no CS IIDX charts
Mirrorball Satellite 2012 / m-flo no CS IIDX charts
morning prayer / SILVA no CS IIDX charts
Queen's Jamaica (astria mix) / Crunky Boy featuring Muhammad no CS IIDX charts
Shake / double no CS IIDX charts
ska a go go / THE BALD HEADS - no CS IIDX charts
SKIN / CHARLOTTE no CS IIDX charts

5th Style:

entrance / Kobo Project with Masa 7th
more deep (ver.2.1) / Togo project feat. Sana 7th
SOMETHING WONDERFUL / L.E.D. 6th
Spin the disc / good-cool 7th / 9th / US
電人イェーガーのテーマ (Theme of DENJIN J) / L.E.D.6th



I know that there are songs in that list which did make an appearance in BMUS where you can use Hard/Easy, but would it be possible to disable the option to change the gauge for Hard/Easy on said songs when inputting scores for said songs under 3rd-5th Style?

Another thing I noted is the fact that for some of us, we have to change what HS we use for certain songs if played on 3rd/4th Style, as opposed to other mixes that they appear on (my normal comfortable reading speed for 150 is HS3, whereas on 3rd/4th my comfort for 150 is HS2). Just a thought for the latter, but it just makes sense to me to differentiate mods based on what style they're played on.


Re easy/hard, your lists aren't that great, you have a bunch of songs that didn't make it to home versions and a lot of songs that were revived in later styles, plus you're missing things like Genom Screams [3rd] where a tracker was added for a specific chart that changed on later styles. Do you have specific examples of where you're seeing a hard or easy where it's impossible? Really though, it's not something that affects much in the grand scheme of things.

The hi speed thing would be nice, but depending on how they're stored it might take a rework of the db architecture, and then you have the problem of "what to do with existing data" especially on songs like e.g. I Was The One where the HS values might be from 3rd or Empress, who knows.

That's not even including the fact that I bet a lot of HS values are inaccurate because people didn't bother to input them, or started on a slower HS and didn't use the full score entry page on later plays at a higher HS. I know I didn't on a lot of songs on L7.
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