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post Sep 24 2005, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Oni+ @ Sep 23 2005, 07:23 PM) *
hah, he's 10 EX above me on that fuckshit song
No way did he pass, he probably forgot to uncheck the box.
btw, just because you can pass Please Don't Go [a] doesn't mean you can neccesarily AAA Macho Gang L7.

You DO know how much skill you need to be able to pass PDG [a]...right?


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post Sep 24 2005, 07:50 PM
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Skill ≠ timing.
While it can be assumed that someone who can pass PDG [a] can probably AAA Macho Gang L7, this isn't always true. Macho Gang has a lot of scratches, which are somewhat harder to time than notes.


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post Sep 24 2005, 10:15 PM
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Yes, but someone who is haphazard with his timing is more likely than not incapable of accurately performing really complex/bullshitty passages like those found in the middle and end of PDG [a].


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post Sep 24 2005, 10:22 PM
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Yeah, you need to have a pretty good level of precision to be able to actually pass PDG[a]. You can't really BS your way through it. Ergo, if you can pass PDG[a] (on normal life difficulty) you pretty assuredly can AAA Macho Gang L7, because you obviously have a pretty decent amount precision and control.
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post Sep 24 2005, 10:26 PM
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Maybe he spends more time playing hard songs than trying to AAA easy ones? I know this is NOWHERE near PDG[A], but clearing Kamikaze and R5 another is butt loads easier than AAA'ing Macho Gang L7. Now just picture someone who spends nearly ALL their time on hard songs and plays two handed, then clearing PDG[A] before AAA'ing Macho Gang L7 isn't too farfetched.


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post Sep 25 2005, 01:38 PM
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I'd just like to point out that it feels good to know that I have in fact AAA'd Macho Gang L7. tongue.gif

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post Sep 25 2005, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Azure @ Sep 24 2005, 08:26 PM) *
clearing Kamikaze and R5 another is butt loads easier than AAA'ing Macho Gang L7

Not even close.

That's a new quote, though.
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post Sep 25 2005, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Oni+ @ Sep 24 2005, 09:50 PM) *
Skill ≠ timing.


For the most part, yes, it does. It's pretty rare to see a V [a] clear with much less than a AA, and that doesn't required half the control to clear consistently as PDG [a]. And I highly, highly doubt more than one or two people have cleared Scorpion Fire [a] without AAing it.


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fuck goli and all that anime bullshit. the mere inclusion of both g.m.d. AND s.d.z. makes every previous iidx release seem like a disappointment. I'm buying ten copies of this when it comes out and will rub them all over my balls. ALL of them.

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Silvia Drive is also nails-on-chalkboard horrible, too; again, the chart is decent but Noria's attempt to out-yodel backyard dogs is a mind numbing atrocity.
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post Sep 25 2005, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(Azure @ Sep 25 2005, 12:26 AM) *
clearing Kamikaze and R5 another is butt loads easier than AAA'ing Macho Gang L7


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clearing Kamikaze and R5 another is butt loads easier than AAA'ing Macho Gang L7
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post Sep 25 2005, 11:03 PM
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i remember i AAAed it right on the dot on 3rd style WITH DUALSHOCK ohmy.gif then i never played it again until i got 9th and i recorded a score and took a pic of it with the 9th interface before it even came out :>
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post Sep 26 2005, 06:11 PM
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Are you sure? I heard from a very good player that passing and scoring are two very different things, and just playing IIDX to pass songs won't ensure that you'll be able to AAA something.

I have some firsthand knowledge of timing and precision, and I can get a lot of greats on a song if I do well, but I can't AAA hardly anything unless I really focus on the timing. Another factor is notecount, which effects both passing and scoring. I find Nothing ain't Stoppin' Us 7k easier to AAA than the L7 because it has more notes, but the patterns aren't much more complex, allowing me to get more JustGreats. Also, I can easily clear Real or Music to your Head [a] because the last third or so of each song are fairly simple streams when compared to the BS note mashfests present in the first half of each song.

About really hard 12s, this is a bad example, but someone COULD skip the first half of the song and do well on the latter half and get a poor grade but still pass. They probably wouldn't, obviously, because nobody selects moon_child [a], goes to get a soda from a vending machine, then comes back in time for the symmetrical patterns and double scaling and nails the rest of the song, or does well enough to pass it.

I do concede that almost everyone who can pass Please Don't Go [a], hard clear or otherwise, can probably AAA Macho Gang though. I'm just arguing a point.


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post Sep 26 2005, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Azure @ Sep 25 2005, 12:26 AM) *
clearing Kamikaze and R5 another is butt loads easier than AAA'ing Macho Gang L7.


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post Sep 27 2005, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(Oni+ @ Sep 26 2005, 08:11 PM) *
I do concede that almost everyone who can pass Please Don't Go [a], hard clear or otherwise, can probably AAA Macho Gang though. I'm just arguing a point.

unfortunately youre wrong there since theres a living example tongue.gif and Jimbo, wheres my CYO vid?
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post Oct 1 2005, 11:35 PM
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not til i get a new ps2 AND fliptop sad.gif sad.gif

im so lucky to have an older model ps2 with a shitty laser and its fliptop no

btw i have a surprise for you guys on monday i think


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post Oct 3 2005, 01:09 PM
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surprises are scary


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post Oct 4 2005, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(Oni+ @ Sep 23 2005, 07:23 PM) *
hah, he's 10 EX above me on that fuckshit song
No way did he pass, he probably forgot to uncheck the box.
btw, just because you can pass Please Don't Go [a] doesn't mean you can neccesarily AAA Macho Gang L7.

Yes it does. I don't wanna hear some bs about some completely retarded possibilities. Let's think logically hear. I mean sure it is possible that somone can AAA murmur twins[a] but not be able to pass V 7 keys if they never played it but what are the possibilities. While this is an obvious exaggeration, anyone who can pass pdg[a] definitely has the timing to AAA Macho gang, cuz if ur timing was that awful you wouldn't be able to get enough greats to gain the bar needed to pass pdg[a]. Anyone who has the finger dexterity to pass stupid songs means they have played iidx for a long time and no matter what "unless you're taiki" you can not play iidx to that level with out obtaining some timing. I hate when people go on some bs like this and spout out stuff that in some drastic extremity, is humanly possible but just not ever gonna happen. You know it is possible that someone can just have a propensity for hand games and having played no bemani AA destiny 7 keys first time ever playing. We'll have a black woman president before that happens so don't hold your breath.

Any lying examples are retarded and faking. I could just as easily claim that I can't AAA retro 7, but having passed Colors[a] hard mode, we'd all know I'm a damn lie.
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post Oct 4 2005, 06:30 PM
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Depends on where you're playing. I wouldn't be surprised if Danir passed PDG [a] before AAAing Macho Gang L7 at our arcade, because nobody gets AAAs at our arcade. Well, almost nobody.


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post Oct 4 2005, 06:31 PM
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retro 7?

I agree with what you said, though (since I've said it before).


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post Oct 4 2005, 06:32 PM
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Retro Pop Ska.

Well, that'd be cool, anyway >_>


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post Oct 4 2005, 06:40 PM
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I assume he means Retrospective Song (Comment te dire adieu).
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